update on Sasha: no connection... growled at the children... jumps up to the counter top for food... her focus is food... she was super over weight... was feed from the table with a fork even... all those things factored into our decision NOT to take her home... as well as her being terrible on the leash (pulling with lots of force) *she was already stuck in her ways* The daughter of the lady who passed away (who brought her out to us) is most likely going to just keep her... she would be a great dog for her — but not a Farm dog... too bad though... really too bad... night all~ and thanks for your words of encouragement (I feel like I let you NDF Chicks down!)